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Post Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:11 pm   Reply with quote      



Alcohol products are generally believed that they are hazardous to your health if excessive amount is taken. This is often the argument made to support alcohol tax. What's your take on alcohol tax?



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Post Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:02 pm   Reply with quote      



Although I am known for enjoying a drink or three, I have no problem with alcohol being taxed.

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Post Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:25 pm   Reply with quote      



You think it's justified?



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Post Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:59 pm   Reply with quote      



Yes, I think it's justified. Alcohol isn't a necessity. It's a luxury which usually isn't so good for us.

Aaron



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Post Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:03 am   Reply with quote      



Perhaps there are good reasons besides drinking for relaxant and euphoric effects?

Uses

In many countries, alcoholic beverages are commonly consumed at the major daily meals (lunch and dinner).

In places and eras with poor public sanitation, such as Medieval Europe, consumption of alcoholic beverages (particularly weak or "small" beer) was one method of avoiding water-borne diseases such as the cholera. Though strong alcohol kills bacteria, the low concentration in beer or even wine will have only a limited effect. Probably the boiling of water, which is required for the brewing of beer, and the growth of yeast, which would tend to crowd out other micro-organisms, were more important than the alcohol itself. In any case, the ethanol (and possibly other ingredients) of alcoholic beverages allows them to be stored for months or years in simple wood or clay containers without spoiling, which was certainly a major factor in their popularity.

In colder climates, strong alcoholic beverages are popularly seen as a way to "warm up" the body, possibly because ethanol is a quickly absorbed source of food energy and dilates peripheral blood vessels. This however is a dangerous myth, and people experiencing hypothermia should avoid alcohol.

In many cultures, both contemporary and historical, alcoholic beverages — mostly because of their neurological effects — have also played an important role in various kinds of social interaction. While other psychoactive drugs (such as opium, coca, khat, cannabis, kava-kava, etc.) also have millennial traditions of social use, only coffee, tea and tobacco have been as universally used and accepted as ethanol is today.

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Post Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:23 am   Reply with quote      



Yes, there are many potential benefits associated with drinking alcohol, but I think the consensus of opinion is probably that, all told, it's not that good overall. Maybe red wine shouldn't be taxed because of its believed health benefits.

Aaron



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Post Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:30 pm   Reply with quote      



That's actually a good point. Specific alcohol beverages and how you drink them actually benefit your health, while others are for relaxant and euphoric effects. Also once the price goes above a certain price, it's fair to assume that it's luxury. It seems to make sense that these luxurious alcohol beverages get taxed more.



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Post Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:03 pm   Reply with quote      



I have nothing against a tax on alcohol; afterall, it's what? only a few extra cents?

I agree with what was said before, alcohol is not a necessity, and well, taxing it would be just like taxing cigarettes: some will get angry, some will just accept it.

But, what I'd like to know is where the taxed money would go to...



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Post Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:11 pm   Reply with quote      



white out wrote:
But, what I'd like to know is where the taxed money would go to...

That's probably a more important question. I'm pro-taxation, and also though many are against taxation, many of them are against taxation because they feel like taxed money isn't used properly. I have to agree with this. There is lack of transparency. There is lack of accountability. There are a lot of problems.



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Post Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:42 am   Reply with quote      



white out wrote:
I agree with what was said before, alcohol is not a necessity, and well, taxing it would be just like taxing cigarettes: some will get angry, some will just accept it.

Not a necessity, but might be beneficial for your health. If it is the case, recommending having a glass of wine or so might be able to make people much healthier than today, which could bring down over all healthcare cost. Given the possibility, should there be taxation on this, which could discourage people from drinking (modestly)?



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